Tony Snow on GOP Senator Who Hit White House on War: Should We Fight a Duel?
NEW YORK White House Press Secretary Tony Snow held his first briefing for reporters today since Gordon Smith, the formerly pro-war Republican senator from Oregon, gave a speech in Congress attacking the U.S. handling of the conflict in Iraq, using words like "criminal" and "absurd" and "immoral." Naturally reporters asked Snow about this, as well as other war-related topics.
Referring to Sen. Smith's charges, Snow said that it was the killing of U.S. soldiers, not the conduct of the war itself, that was "immoral." He also responded to Smith's claim that the Americans were getting "blown up," by urging, "do not assume that people are simply being blown up. They are on missions."
The relevant part of the transcript follows.
Q Republican Senator Gordon Smith, last week, said, "Our soldiers patrolling the same streets in the same way, being blown up by the same bombs day after day, it's absurd. It may even be criminal," and that he can no longer support this. What is your reaction to a Republican senator saying that what's going on right now in Iraq is criminal?
MR. SNOW: Well, we dispute the "criminal" part, obviously, and at the same time, understand the senator's concern. We share the concern about not doing well enough fast enough. But do not assume that people are simply being blown up. They are on missions. And as General Corelli said last week, "There's not an engagement our people have lost, but it is still important to continue the work of building greater capability and capacity on the part of the Iraqi government and helping them out."
People on both sides are going to have disagreements, much as Joe Lieberman,
formerly a Democrat, apparently run out of his party for disagreeing
with what was seen as orthodoxy at that time, but Gordon --
MR. SNOW: Well, then we disagree.
Q You're just going to blow it off? A Republican senator is saying the President's policy may be criminal and it's immoral, and you're just saying, we just disagree?
MR. SNOW: And what would you like me to say? Should I do duels at 10 paces?
Q Don't you think you should answer for that? You're saying -- you've said from this podium over and over that the strategy is a victory, right? And you have a Republican senator is saying there is no clear strategy, that you don't have a strategy.
MR. SNOW: Well, let's let Senator Smith hear what the President has to say. We understand that this is a time where politics are emotional in the wake of an election. And you know what? Senator Smith is entitled to his opinion. But I'm not sure exactly what you would like --
Q Well, how about answering the central thrust about the strategy, not about, like, politics --
MR. SNOW: Okay, the strategy is pretty simple. If you take a look, for instance -- if you take a look at the Baker-Hamilton commission report, what do they talk about? They talk about building greater capability on the part of the Iraqis so that you can have an Iraqi government that governs itself, sustains itself, defends itself, who's ally in the war on terror is a democracy.
I don't think it's immoral to be a democracy. I don't think it's immoral to have a state that is able to stand up and defend itself against acts of terror. I don't think it's immoral to defend the Iraqi people against acts of terrorism aimed at Muslims.
Q The Senator is not saying that's immoral. He's saying that the U.S. -- he's saying, of course democracy is a great goal --
MR. SNOW: You know what, Ed? Ed, I'll tell you what. You're engaging in an argument and you're trying to fill in the gaps in a --
Q It's not an argument. It's a Republican senator saying it, not me. It's a Republican senator saying it, and he's not --
MR. SNOW: Then tell me exactly what --
Q -- of course he's in favor of democracy.
MR. SNOW: Tell me --
Q Are you saying Republican Senator Smith is not in favor of democracy?
MR. SNOW: Well, I don't know. You just said he said it's immoral; when I listed the elements of the policy, you said that's not what he was talking about. So please tell me what he was talking about.
Q He's saying that day after day, that now U.S. soldiers are patrolling the same streets, that they're caught up in the middle of a civil war -- not about the government there --
MR. SNOW: Okay, here's what's immoral: the killing of American soldiers. We agree.
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